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9/11 interviews that pain or embarrassment,” said
Marilyn Richter, an attorscy
the redactfons in his. could try to get a judge to re-
Some of the redactions were view what was dieted. As a
challenge any of the redactions
in court, he also did not fore
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pile because 1 bad some .1 BY LIAM PLEVEN the state’s rt- « ourt in wbon an interviewer offered David McCraw, an attorney Attorney Norman Siegel,
serious concerns about it, ■ STAFF WRITER March, whea itissi !« us ruling' him “an opportunity to give ns for The New York Times, who represents members of
bemg Stable, which, unfortu- ' .••j 1- that led to Friday’s >5ttre- i any ftirther recollections or ob- ^ch was one of the parties ei^f familicB that each lost a
natcly, later on proved (o' be New’ York City on Friday re- Many intevtev id aoih’ servations before we conclude At sued for the Interviews to relative at the World Trade
S’ true, because th^e was-a ■ leased imore than 500 firenght- ing omitted at alL la some the interview, If he has any.” be released, said, "I have every Center and joined in the law
secondary collapse which'I ;x3 er imeirviews full of first-hand cases, the redactions were The redactions were . “ex- rejnion to believe that the city suit, said, "If in our review of
think wound up taking the accounts of the pain, heroism, brief, such as the two lines of tremely limited and made is has acted in good faith and the oral histories we find that
lives of couple of the Port . chaos and bravery they experi text missing from a passa^ good faith,” Richter said. tried to redact ia accowiaRce parts have been improperd re
Authority officers who 'were enced when responding to (he wliere-a paramedic w» urging dacted, we will advocate for
rig in the rubble ... J World Trade Center on Sept. a detective to use his: gun to NOW ON NEWSOAY.COM the complete release of the oral
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There was a bunch of 11,200!. open the door to a store where histories in their original
problems, you know, with But there was still sume- they were trying to get refuge form.”
doctors staying off the pile, thisg missing. near the site. Part of another Staff writer Ainsley Q'Cfinnell
people, you know, narcotics In some of the transcripts line also was redacted. coMfibuted to this story.
oeing sent to (he front line were portions the city blacked The paramedic, Manuel Deb'
... via anyone who said
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needed them, you know
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there were lot of problems
like that
I had issues with the .Port
Authority cops beln&^ —
they were probably ^^ards
into the rubble
For families, fight eontinue
BY AINSLEY OXONNEU
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gi arqund and shojftly^^r that STAFF WRITER
warf: when tfaefe'x^^. sec-
ondary coUaps^O^ ■.'■■■ Families who fought three i'w-
There was ;f-FW-.jA^thori- ycars for the release of fire 1 \
ty sergeant wte^^plSne tO our, . •>' partment oral histories and h| f.•,■*•••• ■■
you know, treatment area-'. radio communications from Hi
and be requested some nar- 9 Sept J I, 200L pared over the
■Apr^r >rr7:: transcripts Friday, searching |n
cotks, >hine, because
1 either one or two of his Firefighters carry out flag-draped remains from the 'site of the WoHd Trade Center on March 26, 2002. for even the smallest mention
i offi- ere trapped. He
made statements to tbC'ef
fect that they were going to
trapped, over the command
frequency and citywide, h
I guess all the other companies building . . . We imraediato-
were following behind US. Wc ly started down Exit A . . .
bulletproof vest. I remember
putting that on, and I remem
of lost relatives* last moments.
desperate for informa-
tion,” said Rosemary Cain, moth
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try acd cut them out.. Me
said he was a nurse. With
gave you that much more
adrenaline to get up there and
ended up going single file.
Civilians were coining down
^e got all the way down in
the A staircase to the 3rd
ber putting (on>my helmet.
'Then wc hear, ”It’s coming
er of Firefighter George Caia
"We survived S^cember U. and • J-
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that two doctors who were
at my staging area naruraUy
try to get these people, Wfen
the second tower came down.
single file. They were telling Floor. Apparently the ESO
us whai floors they were com cops bad •— they put a piece
down. It’s coming down.” We
didn’t even have a chance to
wc will survive listening to these
tapes. They can't break us.” w Isi
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vf^unteered to go up on the you had enough ing from. . . of Shectrock blocking off the turn around. The cloud is com But. she added. “I think it’s a ■W
nibble. So I advised the The radios were pretty By the time we got to the 3rd Floor ... so we exited ing dowa and we get burled. disgrace that the families have
paramedic to send them to much dead. *fhe 800 trunking IltJi Floor, people started to the A staircase at (he 3rd I remember running Into had to fight for every little bit
Floor. We ran into two ESU Battery Park in the — every of information.'’ k,r
give him the narcotics, and radios were working very — get tired. We got to the ISth
they did. you know (W8<M5 frequency? Floor, and we were — start or Port Authority cops, and body is running, people falling. And the fight is not yet over. ^2ii
To my knowled^ — and I They were working very shab ed taidt^ breaks . . . We they were helpb^ a guy In a I remember failing down. X Fjonilies who sought the re A
gr; was ttere ay night — (hose by. You had the repeaters on heard Maydays on the radio swivel chair about — he was remember I lost my helmet. lease trf rhe records said Friday ?,-1a
officers never came to our the World Trade Center. from Ladder 10- Ladder 10 at least 300 pounds. He had I didn’t know where I wtis. that parts of the transcripts
area. It was just may That’s about it. The cell had two men down with broken legs, and (hey were I remember running Into a may have been improperly A-:.....
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hem. phones weren’t working. . . chest pains . . . Then we trying to pull him tferou^ lobby in the financial district blacked out, and also call^ for
What did get my attention But 1 got to admit., everybody would keep going. When wc the hallway to pet him to the somewhere. 1 was the only the release of transcripts for 911
— and the hair on my arm stuck together. The system stopped on the 15th Floor wc B Staircase, which they said EMS personnel in there with
a bunch of women and chil
calls made on Sept. 11,200L
"We think this is a partial
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stands up as we talk about it —• was working. took a survey of the floor> was good. They said they
the people, maybe not the found the vending machines, were responsible for block dren crying, and people victory,” said Norman Siegel,
higher rantii^, but the people DanblStftillsig ' ■ . • Guys had broken the vend ing off (he staircase, because saying to me, “Help me, help lead counsel in the suit to re 55
who were dowo in the trench- ■ Firefighter Sth gr^ ing machines already to start tbire was debris now in that me. We can't breathe.” I had lease the records, "'rhere are H
cops, the fireraen — it Engine 24, RfenWan : - taking out the water, so we staircase. We couldn’t have no equipment. All I had was too many redactions already,”
hat they worked like they ■ ■ We pulled up to the Twin : were taking bottles of water, made it out to the ground my pouch. 1 remember I had be said after reading 12 of the
vorked together forever Towers on West Street and ’ talcing a break, and then level that way. So we helped a bottle of water with me, 503 transcripts or oral histo re "4^
iS wo good partners. They into th© lobby of the north going back on the stairs. Wc them with the civilian . . . and I had it in my pocket.
and I remember doing (his
ries.
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le most part listened to ■ tower. We got •out ? kept doing that every five or We came out of the north Three years ago. The Now
dlreaion when it made sense, . nine o’clock before the .sec six floors, wherever there side of the tower, and wc clearing my face, people arc York Times and families of ■ \ . .• <- , a-rn SiV'A&B-NOTO
and anythin you needed,' building got hit. We didn’t was an open door. went right across to 6 Trade coming up to me in the eight Sept. 11 victims brought a Sally Ib^nhard with a ph^ of her son Friday at a ncu® ow^rence With other relatives of virtims who sought documents
people were right there. ■ ■ ■ know the second buHdii Realistically what hap Center, to the Gnwoms build- lobby, saying, "Help me. help lawsuit against the New York
lilt at nine o’dock or an^ pened is It took us about an h«4- me. I can’t breathe, 1 can’t City Fire Department asking it The department -argued that lie must be able to see how fire said W the transcripts that they ers were victims of the system
MhirkMszur When we made it into the :: hour to get to the 37th Floor breathe.” I’m looking around to di&ek«e the tapes and tran firefighters' privacy would be events of that day and Its after- never heard evacuation orders, they swore to uphold.” she said,
EMS command id^.There was debris fahin^ . . . Tbafs when the building Prank Pustor p to see what I can do. scripts -— a request contested violated and that some of the math were handled by the “If.that’s true, that’s horri- Members of the victims’fami-
tt^!on4 from the build’mg.. .’nteyW shook from the other tower &attafk« 31EMT . I remember opening up by the department. records had bees, released to city,” Siegel said. "The public ble,”hesald. lies also said the transcripts rep-
We were coming over the saying the devatocs werenT ’ going down. At weak to -Bed he aid this door. There was a slop the federal gowrnmeBt for the cannot be kept in the dark.” "I trusted the system bdbre reseat an important chapter in
59th Street Brktee. We were working.Ladder 20, the A battalion chief — the hb partis sink. There was clothes ri < prc«<^lfoD of Zacarias M<»s- Siegel and feaubes partidiMt- 9/11, and so did my km.*’^^d history.
looking over at the towers, andI from Ladder 20, deci<M'fcd? . battalion chief from Battalion The two buiWh^ are stand- hanging. I took the clothes, saouh who at the rime was ing in the suit said the (rah- SaCy R^enhard. mother of ’’The majority of America
you could actually see the start walking up the stairs. He U — came from a higher ing. There's^m<^^ming and I started soaking the charged with loping the Sept scripts indicated that the radio Firefighter Christian Regen- was not there at the site. They
people jumping... like rallied his gu0. So w0b x floor. He came down and everywhere^ so J "You clothes, welting them, start comraunications system was in- hard and founder of the Sky- forget.” said Christina Serafin.
Everybody did what they walking. , . Everybody at that saw us on the 37th Floor and know wfaatF 1 fc^-my partner, ed cutting out strips, giving i 6-1S tod 2-3^ ' in Court of Ap- adequate, and possibly a coctrib- scraper Safety Campaign. “9Ai mother of Firefighter Robert
had to do. Communications point started walkii^ up the told us that he thought there Mala, “let's get sutted up,” and it to kids, giving it to the ordered foe eny to release uting f^or In deaths of firefiefat- was a massive betrayal of trust, Evans, who died in the attacks.
could have been better, but U atairs. was a partial collapse of the wc gotta go. Tunrout coats, mothers. I must have.ripped
everybody's clothes that was
H e efttflfg^ACy : theorallustQitosandracfiotmns- ers sent to (lie north tower of the a massive failure of foe commu- ’“Ihere is no such filing as 1
was because when we We — my team started 65th Floor of our building. everything. 1 remember put-
■: . tpiftoaiQK bull^^iKMfr-T .
■ ■’ ’ teve tfe OtiWcarrW bh the
han^g from people that
work for the maintenance
: ■ ■ ■ ■■ missions anJ allowed die redact- World Tra<te Center, which was nicafions system.-
ri^s.wete
- - closure. There raay‘ be "pegee,
be comfort-Bhi %o 3?
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