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department. I remember
being those gray shirts, those
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as protecting the emotions of rel o
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atives. “It is the department's
hope that the release of the
records will not cause our mem
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dousing everybody. Fm tak- ■
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bers and their todies any addi b^ause it's chaotic. I can't
tional pain or anguish,” a pre 5 let nobody in there because
pared statement read. it’s going to be — they are
Roberr Freeman, director of
the state Conunissioc on Open
Government, said despite the
long, expensive legal battle, the
fighting for water. They’re
Unihg-up for mei Fm clean
ing mem off, giving them
rags, cleaning them off. I’m
I
disclosure of the records .shows
that the Preedoro of Information
Law “wrks reasonably well."
looking at the door. You
can’t fit nobody more In the
lobby. There had to be.500, ft
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''Four years is too long in my 600 people In the lobby.
opinion to gain access to ii;
lecords." Freeman said. “How
ever 'in terms of history, and
Firefighter John Drumm «i1
Engine Co. 39. Manhstlart
the value of records, it is akin Climbing to the'M Hoar of Tower I*:
to the wink of an eye. After all. One
what could have been more dif We met some very nice
ficult or wrenching?" people on the way up. They F.i'-
Freeman said he did not offered the firemen water
tbii^ the case set precedoot, ex
cept in that it was a rare chance
for the court to consider the ef
fect infonnatlon about the de-
and actually I want to put
that in the record because it
was a nice thing One civil
fed
ian offered to carry my rol
ceased would have on their sur lup for a while at one point gg«
viving relatives. I said, “Thank you very K
nmeh, sir. but Fil get ft."
How the oral histoHes :1 . . , Maybe wc wore on •
were taken the 31st hallway for upproxi-
mately five miiwtes when all &
The inrerviews of fire per- of a sudden a crashing,
sonnel collected after 9/U thundering, roatit^ — it's •
were conducted informally. almost impossible to really
Que^tons were few. and ap explain with those words,
peared W be aimed at gently bur it was so much more
pressing firefighters and others noise than I could ever real
X to continue tcUiag their sto n ly explain clearly. The mem
ries. bers that were nearby, we all
Then Fire Conunwsioner went and got down on our
Thomas Von Essen said at the hands and knees on rhe
time he wanted to create a floor, not knowing what this 5fe:
record of what happened was, walls, floor. I had no
before individual memories idea. I had no idea what was
faded and collective memory happening until 1 got out of
formed. the building later in the day.
The interviews were con After the noise had stopped, 5^"
ducted by fire marshals, who
usually investigate arsons,
'^W' there was a transmission on
the radio that I had, I was in a
b
and departmental Investiga position on 39 control that day, 5l i!
tors who normally work on so 1 had a radio so 1 could bear
disciplinary matters, a depart- it myself on my radio. .i'
meat spokeswoman said There was a transMilssion
'Friday. ■ that I’m guessing was repeat
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The interviews were tran ed about five times; “Immi
scribed by volunteers from
, j>utside the departmeot.
nent collapse, imminent Or
collapse of the north tower.
'-“It was hectic then, and Immediate evacuation.” At
,j|»y.w^-d<j|^:wbRncy6r
'pccfpk were available,” the
eUB least five times I heard that,
. . . After standing on the 3E1
. spokeswoman said, . floor and the collapse of the »
, fian^g official of the ■ . /
: d'ei^rt^nt were usually^
IJ^^ewed in theu- o£fice?>,
aad t^lnbears oflhe low
“ Kiak^' were Interviewed in
I® south tower happening and
maldng our way back into the
stairwell, there was a lot less
civilians. Most of the civilians
hopefully at that point were
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w®
their firehouses.
One retired fire marshal
said Friday that while he was
already down. But there were
still a few we ran Into on the
way down.
mi
at Ground Zero, he decided K One woman we assisted.
against being interviewed. She was having trouble
A captain who was inter breathing. The only air we
viewed said the oral history had left was a cylinder. One
seemed to have been given of the members had a cylin
so long ago that he didn’t der and I helped to purge it
even l^her to review it to to let the woman get a nit
see whether he wanted it off our mask.
edited before release, as he 1? So we gave her the mask.
was entitled to under the I
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She was able to walk after
a
I court order forcing the Fire
pep^tmeut to make them
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that, and she was with two
civilian men that were going
to stay with her the rest of
the way down.
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